Shall We Continue in Sin Romasn 3
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| 1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2. God forbid. We who died to sin, how shall we any longer live therein? 3. Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4. We were buried therefore with him through baptism unto death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:1-4) So there is no permission to continue in sin, in our new life, in the Lord Yeshua. We have to come pure in all kind of wrongness, like our Lord is pure, and without sin. The temptations we may have to do sin, but we should not to be rule, by those temptations. Sin is for death, but righteousness is for life. So no more sinning, or excuses for sin, but let us remember to keep our eye's in the will of God. |
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| According to fundie think, we cannot help ourselves, we were CREATED (programmed) to sin... |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Mikko Ainasoja 1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2. God forbid. We who died to sin, how shall we any longer live therein? 3. Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4. We were buried therefore with him through baptism unto death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:1-4) So there is no permission to continue in sin, in our new life, in the Lord Yeshua. We have to come pure in all kind of wrongness, like our Lord is pure, and without sin. The temptations we may have to do sin, but we should not to be rule, by those temptations. Sin is for death, but righteousness is for life. So no more sinning, or excuses for sin, but let us remember to keep our eye's in the will of God. It's like some of the people who are so adamant that there is an "eternal hell" who, when you tell them they are mistaken , respond with, "Well, why not just enjoy ourselves and sin as much as we want, since there are no consequences*?" A couple have even included things like raping and murdering as things that apparently sounded like fun to them. It makes me wonder if they have really experienced "newness of life", if they have experienced the "fruit of the spirit" and love for others and self, or if they, in their minds at least, are still shackled by their desire to sin and are unable to see the harm that living out of harmony with love causes to themselves and others or, if they can see it, don't care. Why else would they ask such a question? *Apparently, anything other than eternal torment doesn't count as a consequence. |
Hopefully they were just overstating their case to make a point, but the point flabbergasts me. It astounds me that they think that "missing the mark" is something that gives joy and something they would want to do as much as possible if they didn't think they were going to be punished for eternity. | | |||
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| Quote: Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 According to fundie think, we cannot help ourselves, we were CREATED (programmed) to sin... Sadly, but many people's want to think like that, that we have to do sin. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Mikko Ainasoja 1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2. God forbid. We who died to sin, how shall we any longer live therein? 3. Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4. We were buried therefore with him through baptism unto death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:1-4) So there is no permission to continue in sin, in our new life, in the Lord Yeshua. We have to come pure in all kind of wrongness, like our Lord is pure, and without sin. The temptations we may have to do sin, but we should not to be rule, by those temptations. Sin is for death, but righteousness is for life. So no more sinning, or excuses for sin, but let us remember to keep our eye's in the will of God. I absolutely agree that we should strive to put our sin behind us. Have you stopped sinning? As for this Yeshua guy...never heard of him. Who is he? The Bible does not refer to such a person. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 According to fundie think, we cannot help ourselves, we were CREATED (programmed) to sin... What fundie has told you that? God never created us for sin. His will is that we don't sin. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Vizio I absolutely agree that we should strive to put our sin behind us. Have you stopped sinning? As for this Yeshua guy...never heard of him. Who is he? The Bible does not refer to such a person. Like it or not, Yahushah is is real name when he walked the earth. Jesus is just a poor transliteration we have accepted and used. Jesus was Hebrew from the line of Judah, so he would have a Hebrew name, not a Greek/Latino name. Just like an American is not going to name their child Babatunday Wang, as it has nothing to do with their culture. There is no letter J in Hebrew, Greek, or Latin and the letter J didnt even come out until 20-30 yrs after the 1611 KJV was written. In English, Yahushah would be transliterated more as Joshua, not Jesus. Yahushah->Yeshua->Iesous->Iesus->Jesus. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Vizio I absolutely agree that we should strive to put our sin behind us. Have you stopped sinning? As for this Yeshua guy...never heard of him. Who is he? The Bible does not refer to such a person. I do have stopped sinning. And Yeshua name comes's from our Lord's Hebrew name, the name Jesus is from Greek. The Bible use the Greek version of this name, even though the original name was not like this Greek name, but more like Yeshua, which comes form the original Hebrew name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_(name) |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Mikko Ainasoja 1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2. God forbid. We who died to sin, how shall we any longer live therein? 3. Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4. We were buried therefore with him through baptism unto death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:1-4) So there is no permission to continue in sin, in our new life, in the Lord Yeshua. We have to come pure in all kind of wrongness, like our Lord is pure, and without sin. The temptations we may have to do sin, but we should not to be rule, by those temptations. Sin is for death, but righteousness is for life. So no more sinning, or excuses for sin, but let us remember to keep our eye's in the will of God. As I Christian, I can honesty say that Christians are the most naive group of people on this planet, because we are soft and allow others to crap all over us…..remember, we need to be simple as dove and sly as a fox! We need to walk the walk, and not make excuses… Read Psalm 1:1 about 1,000 times and you will understand that getting away from mockers and scorners of our faith is the smartest move you will make in your life. Get away from these unclean people, stop sinning, and start walking with Yahshua will all your strength, and you will win in this life. Remember, the way of the transgressor is a hard, hard, hard, life…on earth and in the next life (Provers 13:15). |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Vizio What fundie has told you that? God never created us for sin. His will is that we don't sin. His will maybe, but the reality is fundies teach we are SINNERS in need of repentance 24/7 |
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